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I've been talking to some friends here in artreview (and outside too) about editioning video.
Some people option for making limited edition of their videos and sell them for a very high price through galleries for collectors. Others don't make editions and just sell though distributer for a much lower price, like US 50,00 each.
The limited editions are sold for US 3000,00 sometimes (emergent artists), but of course not many people can afford this. DVD is a very democratic media (and not good for storage), so how to solve all this? Some people sell each signed DVD with a storage media (like MiniDV or Beta tapes).
Anyway, I'd like to know your opinions. In this link there's a bit about this and other issues involved in selling video art.
I think this is a very important topic, and not very clear to many of us.
If any collectors/galleries are part of this group, please leave your opinions as well!
Kika

http://www.eai.org/resourceguide/collection/singlechannel/basicques...

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I have videos offered through Pierogi ( http://www.pierogi2000.com/ ) a gallery in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. They have a video collection along side their flat-file. I chose to offer them as an open edition priced at $300 on DVD. No sales yet.
T
thanks a lot, Tim, for sharing your experience!
I'll comment later on what I think about this.
Hi,

I've been looking for information on exhibiting and selling videos, and found this old thread. The eai.org link is very informative, thank you Kika!

Florence
i am opened for any selling option :)
but it depends on what kind of rights want to have buyer
i dont want to see my works in commercials and it have to be presented in context
good to know the collection of person who want to buy anything...

if you want to sell something its great i think

http://video-art.pl/
To answer the oiginal question:

I've never liked the idea artificially limiting the number of copies of my digital works, and I don't do it. I have just started working with video, but I am planning to make DVDs (just need to learn how, lol). I am thinking of pricing them at 50 euros (about 60 $ or 45 £).

But first I need to figure out a way to show them without spending too much in hardware...

Florence
I have been working on preparing a DVD for sale. It will contain the video in mpeg2 format (readable by a DVD player) and in H.264 format in HD.

I am a bit worried about copyright, but I prefer to give buyers the possibility of viewing the work in HD, and I will just include a copyright notice warning that the work should not be reproduced except for personal use.

There is still one thing I am not clear about. I have used music provided on ccMixter.org with a Creative Commons license. According to the license, I can do anything I want with this music, provided I give credit to the author. But I am still planning to contact him and offer him a percentage of the sales price, because I think it's fair. Especially since on other videos I used music that came with a license for non-commercial use, so if I want to sell those videos I must first get approval from the author. I would like to contact the authors of all musics and sounds I used in my videos and offer them the same deal.

But I'm not sure what to offer. Would 20% of the sales price be OK, or is it too low? And what if I used sounds from 2 different people, should they get 10% each? If I give them each 20%, I won't have much left for myself! Especially if I also have to pay a percentage to a gallery. Maybe I need to raise my prices if I take all this into account.

Thanks in advance for any advice :-)
Florence
Hi Florence
Although I think it isn't very good to use other peoples artwork, without permission, even under open license, I think you should ask the musician/producer/label/company what they'll charge for the music. Then you can give your proposals.
Cheers, John

Florence Artur said:
I have been working on preparing a DVD for sale. It will contain the video in mpeg2 format (readable by a DVD player) and in H.264 format in HD.

I am a bit worried about copyright, but I prefer to give buyers the possibility of viewing the work in HD, and I will just include a copyright notice warning that the work should not be reproduced except for personal use.

There is still one thing I am not clear about. I have used music provided on ccMixter.org with a Creative Commons license. According to the license, I can do anything I want with this music, provided I give credit to the author. But I am still planning to contact him and offer him a percentage of the sales price, because I think it's fair. Especially since on other videos I used music that came with a license for non-commercial use, so if I want to sell those videos I must first get approval from the author. I would like to contact the authors of all musics and sounds I used in my videos and offer them the same deal.

But I'm not sure what to offer. Would 20% of the sales price be OK, or is it too low? And what if I used sounds from 2 different people, should they get 10% each? If I give them each 20%, I won't have much left for myself! Especially if I also have to pay a percentage to a gallery. Maybe I need to raise my prices if I take all this into account.

Thanks in advance for any advice :-)
Florence
hi florence,

these are all tricky questions! but it seems to me that 20% is far too much! I really don't know for sure, though.

the fact that you are willing to pay and recognize the musician's contribution is cool enough. but in reality, at least on my videos, I work with many collaborators and all of their work is important - the actors/performers, the director of photography, the costume designer... so I could not possibly spare 20% to only the music.

that's just my opinion, really.

cheers, kika

Florence Artur said:
I have been working on preparing a DVD for sale. It will contain the video in mpeg2 format (readable by a DVD player) and in H.264 format in HD.

I am a bit worried about copyright, but I prefer to give buyers the possibility of viewing the work in HD, and I will just include a copyright notice warning that the work should not be reproduced except for personal use.

There is still one thing I am not clear about. I have used music provided on ccMixter.org with a Creative Commons license. According to the license, I can do anything I want with this music, provided I give credit to the author. But I am still planning to contact him and offer him a percentage of the sales price, because I think it's fair. Especially since on other videos I used music that came with a license for non-commercial use, so if I want to sell those videos I must first get approval from the author. I would like to contact the authors of all musics and sounds I used in my videos and offer them the same deal.

But I'm not sure what to offer. Would 20% of the sales price be OK, or is it too low? And what if I used sounds from 2 different people, should they get 10% each? If I give them each 20%, I won't have much left for myself! Especially if I also have to pay a percentage to a gallery. Maybe I need to raise my prices if I take all this into account.

Thanks in advance for any advice :-)
Florence
I did not use anybody's content without permission. The music and sound I've been using are offered by their author under the Creative Commons license, which is authorization to use it under certain conditions that are defined in the license. However, some of those sounds do not include commercial use in their license (there are several levels of Creative Commons license), so for these I have to get the author's permission before I can sell the video.

John Benneth said:
Hi Florence
Although I think it isn't very good to use other peoples artwork, without permission, even under open license, I think you should ask the musician/producer/label/company what they'll charge for the music. Then you can give your proposals. Cheers, John
Ah yes, I hadn't thought of that. I make the videos on my own basically, the only part that comes from someone else is the music. At first I had thought of proposing 5%, and then I thought it wasn't enough... mmm... tricky, as you said :-)

kika nicolela said:
hi florence,
these are all tricky questions! but it seems to me that 20% is far too much! I really don't know for sure, though.
the fact that you are willing to pay and recognize the musician's contribution is cool enough. but in reality, at least on my videos, I work with many collaborators and all of their work is important - the actors/performers, the director of photography, the costume designer... so I could not possibly spare 20% to only the music.

that's just my opinion, really.

cheers, kika

I would then, if I were in your shoes, ask the owner his/her price. And I would say as Kika that 20% seems much to much
.

Florence Artur said:
I did not use anybody's content without permission. The music and sound I've been using are offered by their author under the Creative Commons license, which is authorization to use it under certain conditions that are defined in the license. However, some of those sounds do not include commercial use in their license (there are several levels of Creative Commons license), so for these I have to get the author's permission before I can sell the video.

John Benneth said:
Hi Florence
Although I think it isn't very good to use other peoples artwork, without permission, even under open license, I think you should ask the musician/producer/label/company what they'll charge for the music. Then you can give your proposals. Cheers, John

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